{"id":942,"date":"2024-08-20T10:00:40","date_gmt":"2024-08-20T08:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/?p=942"},"modified":"2025-08-18T17:00:05","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T15:00:05","slug":"scenario-for-the-directive-trade-union-comments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/en\/scenario-for-the-directive-trade-union-comments\/","title":{"rendered":"SCENARIO FOR THE DIRECTIVE - TRADE UNION COMMENTS","raw":"SCENARIO FOR THE DIRECTIVE - TRADE UNION COMMENTS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday we presented five potential threats to the implementation of the Platform Work Directive (<a href=\"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/en\/what-scenario-with-the-directive\/\">read here<\/a>).<br \/>\nToday we continue the topic: we asked representatives of two Trade Unions bringing together people working as suppliers for Platforms to comment on our text.<\/p>\n<p><em>Stanis\u0142aw Kierwak, OPZZ of the Confederation of Labor at Pyszne.pl:<\/em><br \/>\nThe directive is, above all, an opportunity to civilize work for platforms in Poland. We cannot waste this opportunity. Our union has already turned to the Ministry with detailed questions and proposals regarding implementation. We are waiting for a response, the matter will probably move forward after the holidays. We will try to participate in the law-making process and protect the interests of employees. We encourage everyone to support these activities, as our working conditions in the coming years will depend on them. We understand the concerns that the new law will not change anything, after all, the platforms have been avoiding paying taxes for many years, breaking labor law and facing no consequences. We believe that it is worth fighting and trying to change it &#8211; at this point we see real chances for it<\/p>\n<p><em>Ivan Strzelbicki, Employee Initiative of Couriers and Couriers<\/em><br \/>\nThese concerns related to the implementation of the directive are rather socio-political realities than possible threats.<br \/>\nIt is the case everywhere that the government is distant from the citizens in the processes of creating some regulations or political decisions. Everyone can answer a simple question: does a citizen feel that he or she participates in political processes and does the government ask him or her for his or her opinion in decisions that are important for society? This gap between the government and the people is at different levels in different countries. And this directly depends on the activity and involvement of citizens in the functioning of politicians and those in power, who, above all, must take into account the opinion and interests of the nation they basically serve. Creating regulations regarding Platform employees, without paying attention to their opinions and experience, would be an indicator of the existing socio-political pathology. We, as the Union, will try to reach the government with our information. And we&#8217;ll see what comes of it.<\/p>\n<p>#zentrale_dyrektywa<\/p>\n","protected":false,"raw":"Yesterday we presented five potential threats to the implementation of the Platform Work Directive (<a href=\"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/en\/what-scenario-with-the-directive\/\">read here<\/a>).\r\nToday we continue the topic: we asked representatives of two Trade Unions bringing together people working as suppliers for Platforms to comment on our text.\r\n\r\n<em>Stanis\u0142aw Kierwak, OPZZ of the Confederation of Labor at Pyszne.pl:<\/em>\r\nThe directive is, above all, an opportunity to civilize work for platforms in Poland. We cannot waste this opportunity. Our union has already turned to the Ministry with detailed questions and proposals regarding implementation. We are waiting for a response, the matter will probably move forward after the holidays. We will try to participate in the law-making process and protect the interests of employees. We encourage everyone to support these activities, as our working conditions in the coming years will depend on them. We understand the concerns that the new law will not change anything, after all, the platforms have been avoiding paying taxes for many years, breaking labor law and facing no consequences. We believe that it is worth fighting and trying to change it - at this point we see real chances for it\r\n\r\n<em>Ivan Strzelbicki, Employee Initiative of Couriers and Couriers<\/em>\r\nThese concerns related to the implementation of the directive are rather socio-political realities than possible threats.\r\nIt is the case everywhere that the government is distant from the citizens in the processes of creating some regulations or political decisions. Everyone can answer a simple question: does a citizen feel that he or she participates in political processes and does the government ask him or her for his or her opinion in decisions that are important for society? This gap between the government and the people is at different levels in different countries. And this directly depends on the activity and involvement of citizens in the functioning of politicians and those in power, who, above all, must take into account the opinion and interests of the nation they basically serve. Creating regulations regarding Platform employees, without paying attention to their opinions and experience, would be an indicator of the existing socio-political pathology. We, as the Union, will try to reach the government with our information. And we'll see what comes of it.\r\n\r\n#zentrale_dyrektywa"},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false,"raw":""},"author":1,"featured_media":943,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_pl_post_content":"Wczoraj przedstawili\u015bmy pi\u0119\u0107 potencjalnych zagro\u017ce\u0144 dla procesu wdra\u017cania Dyrektywy o Pracy dla Platform (<a href=\"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/jaki-scenariusz-z-dyrektywa\/\">czytaj tu<\/a>). Dzi\u015b kontynuujemy temat: zwr\u00f3cili\u015bmy si\u0119 o komentarz do naszego tekstu do przedstawicieli dw\u00f3ch Zwi\u0105zk\u00f3w Zawodowych skupiaj\u0105cych osoby pracuj\u0105ce jako dostawcy dla Platform\r\n\r\n<em>Stanis\u0142aw Kierwak, OPZZ Konfederacji Pracy przy Pyszne.pl:<\/em>\r\nDyrektywa jest przede wszystkim szans\u0105 na ucywilizowanie pracy dla platform w Polsce. Nie mo\u017cemy zmarnowa\u0107 tej szansy. Nasz zwi\u0105zek zwr\u00f3ci\u0142 si\u0119 ju\u017c do Ministerstwa ze szczeg\u00f3\u0142owymi zapytaniami i propozycjami w zakresie implementacji. Czekamy na odpowied\u017a, sprawa pewnie ruszy do przodu po wakacjach. B\u0119dziemy stara\u0107 si\u0119 bra\u0107 udzia\u0142 w procesie tworzenia prawa i pilnowa\u0107 interesu pracownik\u00f3w. Zach\u0119camy wszystkich do wsparcia tych dzia\u0142a\u0144, to od nich b\u0119d\u0105 zale\u017ce\u0107 warunki naszej pracy w nast\u0119pnych latach. Rozumiemy obawy, \u017ce nowe prawo nic nie zmieni, w ko\u0144cu platformy od wielu lat unikaj\u0105 p\u0142acenia podatk\u00f3w, \u0142ami\u0105 prawo pracy i nie ponosz\u0105 \u017cadnych konsekwencji. Uwa\u017camy, \u017ce warto zawalczy\u0107 i spr\u00f3bowa\u0107 to zmieni\u0107- w tym momencie widzimy na to realne szanse\r\n\r\n<em>Ivan Strzelbicki, Inicjatywa Pracownicza Kurier\u00f3w i Kurierek<\/em>\r\nTe wymienione obawy zwi\u0105zane z wdra\u017caniem dyrektywy, to s\u0105 raczej realia spo\u0142eczno -polityczne a nie ewentualne zagro\u017cenia.\r\nTak jest wsz\u0119dzie, \u017ce rz\u0105d jest odleg\u0142y od obywateli w procesach tworzenia jakich\u015b przepis\u00f3w albo decyzji politycznych. Ka\u017cdy mo\u017ce sobie odpowiedzie\u0107 na proste pytanie, czy obywatel czuje, \u017ce uczestniczy w procesach politycznych i czy rz\u0105d pyta go o jego zdanie w wa\u017cnych dla spo\u0142ecze\u0144stwa decyzjach? Ta przepa\u015b\u0107 mi\u0119dzy rz\u0105dem a narodem w r\u00f3\u017cnych pa\u0144stwach jest na r\u00f3\u017cnym poziomie. A to bezpo\u015brednio zale\u017cy od aktywno\u015bci i anga\u017cowania si\u0119 obywateli w procesy funkcjonowania polityk\u00f3w i rz\u0105dz\u0105cych, kt\u00f3rzy przede wszystkim musz\u0105 bra\u0107 pod uwag\u0119 zdanie i interesy narodu, kt\u00f3rym w zasadzie oni s\u0142u\u017c\u0105. Tworzenie przepis\u00f3w dotycz\u0105cych pracownik\u00f3w Platform, bez zwr\u00f3cenia uwagi na ich zdanie i do\u015bwiadczenie, to by\u0142oby wska\u017anikiem istniej\u0105cej patologii spo\u0142eczno-politycznej. My jako Zwi\u0105zek b\u0119dziemy pr\u00f3bowa\u0107 dotrze\u0107 do rz\u0105du z naszymi informacjami. I zobaczymy co z tego wyjdzie.\r\n\r\n#zentrale_dyrektywa","_pl_post_name":"scenariusze-dla-dyrektywy-komentarze-zwiazkow-zawodowych","_pl_post_excerpt":"","_pl_post_title":"SCENARIUSZE DLA DYREKTYWY - KOMENTARZE ZWI\u0104ZK\u00d3W ZAWODOWYCH","_en_post_content":"Yesterday we presented five potential threats to the implementation of the Platform Work Directive (<a href=\"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/en\/what-scenario-with-the-directive\/\">read here<\/a>).\r\nToday we continue the topic: we asked representatives of two Trade Unions bringing together people working as suppliers for Platforms to comment on our text.\r\n\r\n<em>Stanis\u0142aw Kierwak, OPZZ of the Confederation of Labor at Pyszne.pl:<\/em>\r\nThe directive is, above all, an opportunity to civilize work for platforms in Poland. We cannot waste this opportunity. Our union has already turned to the Ministry with detailed questions and proposals regarding implementation. We are waiting for a response, the matter will probably move forward after the holidays. We will try to participate in the law-making process and protect the interests of employees. We encourage everyone to support these activities, as our working conditions in the coming years will depend on them. We understand the concerns that the new law will not change anything, after all, the platforms have been avoiding paying taxes for many years, breaking labor law and facing no consequences. We believe that it is worth fighting and trying to change it - at this point we see real chances for it\r\n\r\n<em>Ivan Strzelbicki, Employee Initiative of Couriers and Couriers<\/em>\r\nThese concerns related to the implementation of the directive are rather socio-political realities than possible threats.\r\nIt is the case everywhere that the government is distant from the citizens in the processes of creating some regulations or political decisions. Everyone can answer a simple question: does a citizen feel that he or she participates in political processes and does the government ask him or her for his or her opinion in decisions that are important for society? This gap between the government and the people is at different levels in different countries. And this directly depends on the activity and involvement of citizens in the functioning of politicians and those in power, who, above all, must take into account the opinion and interests of the nation they basically serve. Creating regulations regarding Platform employees, without paying attention to their opinions and experience, would be an indicator of the existing socio-political pathology. We, as the Union, will try to reach the government with our information. And we'll see what comes of it.\r\n\r\n#zentrale_dyrektywa","_en_post_name":"scenario-for-the-directive-trade-union-comments","_en_post_excerpt":"","_en_post_title":"SCENARIO FOR THE DIRECTIVE - TRADE UNION COMMENTS","_ru_post_content":"\u0412\u0447\u0435\u0440\u0430 \u043c\u044b \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u043b\u0438 \u043f\u044f\u0442\u044c \u043f\u043e\u0442\u0435\u043d\u0446\u0438\u0430\u043b\u044c\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0443\u0433\u0440\u043e\u0437 \u0440\u0435\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0437\u0430\u0446\u0438\u0438 \u0414\u0438\u0440\u0435\u043a\u0442\u0438\u0432\u044b \u043e \u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0435 \u043f\u043b\u0430\u0442\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u044b (<a href=\"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/ru\/\u043a\u0430\u043a\u043e\u0439-\u0441\u0446\u0435\u043d\u0430\u0440\u0438\u0439-\u0441-\u0434\u0438\u0440\u0435\u043a\u0442\u0438\u0432\u043e\u0439\/\">\u0447\u0438\u0442\u0430\u0439\u0442\u0435 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