{"id":1265,"date":"2024-11-21T10:00:46","date_gmt":"2024-11-21T09:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/?p=1265"},"modified":"2025-08-17T18:37:27","modified_gmt":"2025-08-17T16:37:27","slug":"everything-comes-from-struggle-interview-with-the-collective-of-autonomous-delivery-drivers-from-paris","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/en\/everything-comes-from-struggle-interview-with-the-collective-of-autonomous-delivery-drivers-from-paris\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cEVERYTHING COMES FROM STRUGGLE\u201d - INTERVIEW WITH THE COLLECTIVE OF AUTONOMOUS DELIVERY DRIVERS FROM PARIS","raw":"\u201cEVERYTHING COMES FROM STRUGGLE\u201d - INTERVIEW WITH THE COLLECTIVE OF AUTONOMOUS DELIVERY DRIVERS FROM PARIS"},"content":{"rendered":"

Today we present an interview published in September 2018 in the online magazine notesfrombelow.org<\/a> (thanks and regards!)<\/p>\n

by Joe Hayns (@JoeHayns<\/a>)<\/p>\n

\u201cThe street is our factory\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

Collectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris (Collectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris, or CLAP) is a group of Parisian delivery drivers \u2014 employed by Deliveroo, Uber Eats, etc. \u2014 who are collectively organizing themselves across the city.<\/p>\n

In August 2017, CLAP members staged a series of strikes against Deliveroo\u2019s change in pay structure from a guaranteed minimum hourly wage to a fully piece-rate system, the exact same change that sparked the Deliveroo delivery protests in London in late 2016. Since then, CLAP has organised Delivery Platform workers on bikes and mopeds. Their latest action \u2013 a mass deactivation on the weekend of the World Cup finals \u2013 contributed, they believe, to Deliveroo and other platforms suspending their services.<\/p>\n

JH \u2013 Joe Hayns<\/em>
\nS \u2013 Steven, founding member of CLAP<\/em><\/p>\n

This interview was conducted in English, while travelling through Paris in September 2018; it has been lightly edited for clarity. We would like to thank CA for their support before and during the meeting.<\/p>\n

JH \u2013 How did CLAP come about?<\/p>\n

S \u2013 We started around February last year with a meeting of a few bikers who wanted to strike against the platforms and take an activist, rather than just ideological, approach.<\/p>\n

Six months earlier, another platform, Foodora, had closed without paying its Delivery Partners. The company went bankrupt and many Delivery Partners were not paid. Of the original members of CLAP, many worked for the company. They said \u201cwe can\u2019t be without protection \u2013 they, the Platforms, have to protect us\u201d.<\/p>\n

JH – How do larger, longer-established organisations build relationships with Delivery Partners? Do you work with them?<\/p>\n

S – In CLAP, some of us are in the Sud (Solidaires Unitaires D\u00e9mocratiques) trade section and others in the CGT (Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration Nationale du Travail)<\/p>\n

Both unions have sections representing Deliveroo and Uber Eats workers, but both are struggling. There are now structures in place, after the Delivery Partners fought a huge battle with the Platforms.<\/p>\n

The first Delivery Partners strike in France was in Bordeaux in 2016. They approached the CGT for support, but the CGT said \u201cno, you\u2019re a small business\u201d. The Suppliers had to strike alone, but after this fight – carried out despite the opposition of the CGT – the union said “OK, you are workers”. Then Sud did the same and tried to unite many Suppliers.<\/p>\n

But the structure of the union is not adapted to Suppliers, because we do not have a factory, a place to hand out leaflets, we do not have coffee machines to talk. But we say: “Le rue est notre usine”, “This street is our factory”.<\/p>\n

JH – But you meet physically, as members of CLAP?<\/p>\n

S – I think there is a certain contradiction in these Platforms. We do not have a workplace, but when we work, there are certain strategic places – for example between two large restaurants – that, when you work, you know.<\/p>\n

Every Supplier goes to this place. And at that moment, at that place, we can talk.<\/p>\n

JH – I will ask about tactics in a moment. As for Suppliers – in the UK they are usually young people, with a significant number of men who have emigrated here. Is it similar in France? What do you think is the connection between migration status and this job?<\/p>\n

S – There are many Bangladeshi Delivery Drivers for Deliveroo and Uber Eats. The platforms try to hire a lot of immigrants because they think they will keep quiet and not strike.<\/p>\n

The \u201cundocumented\u201d have to buy an account from a Frenchman because in France you have to set up a business to be legal, and you can\u2019t do that if you are \u201cundocumented\u201d. So they pay for the Deliveroo account to the French. They buy it and give 50% to the Frenchman. We are fighting against it.<\/p>\n

We say that a guy who sells his account to an \u201cundocumented\u201d immigrant, for profit, doing nothing, is doing the same as the CEO of Deliveroo or Uber Eats.<\/p>\n

JH – During the first wave of Deliveroo and Uber Eats strikes in the UK, in late summer 2016, workers protested outside the companies\u2019 offices, while logging out of the app. This was followed by a legal campaign by the Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) union to classify Delivery Drivers as workers. And at the end of November last year, Deliveroo Delivery Drivers blocked the restaurant “Editions Kitchen” in Brighton. There, the restaurants prepare food exclusively for delivery, and this is also happening in France now.<\/p>\n

I think we can talk about a series of “spontaneous” strikes running parallel to the legal campaign. And what tactics did you use?<\/p>\n

S – Our biggest tactic is to blockade restaurants. We all stop working at the same time and go to the same place, the same restaurant, and ask them to stop the tablet [used to organise deliveries], so they don\u2019t make a profit. If they don\u2019t do what we say, we stay outside the restaurant shouting \u2013 and when they turn the tablet off, OK, we\u2019ll go to another restaurant. We\u2019re trying to strike that way.<\/p>\n

From September we\u2019ll have a permanent location in the city \u2013 a place where we\u2019ll be one day a week, where we\u2019ll help Delivery Drivers with a range of issues \u2013 give advice on jobs etc.<\/p>\n

JH – In the UK, the strategy of the Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) union has been not to ask Delivery Drivers to be paid more per unit, but to argue in the courts that Delivery Drivers are employees \u2013 not, as Deliveroo claims, independent contractors \u2013 and therefore entitled to certain statutory minimums.<\/p>\n

In an interview with the Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste (NPA), last March, you mentioned the status of Providers and social security \u2013 access to services. You said that you are in a grey area when it comes to both employee benefits and access to social services.<\/p>\n

Could you tell me how your relationship with your employer relates to access to social security?<\/p>\n

S \u2013 We want social security, dignity and a little money to live on. If we get it through legal recognition as employees, OK; if through some micro-enterprise statute, OK too.<\/p>\n

[At this point in the interview, my companion got stuck between the doors of the metro car, distracting me from the question, to which we never returned. So I quote the interview with the NPA: Since we are not considered employees (salari\u00e9s), we do not have to have social security. When we have an accident, all costs are borne by us, unless we have private insurance, which 60-80% of couriers do not have.]<\/p>\n

JH – The Macron administration recently proposed a \u201csocial card\u201d, which seemed to be a suggestion of how the Platforms could relate to workers. What does CLAP think about this?<\/p>\n

S – This was another media nonsense from the Macron government. When we went on strike during the World Cup, the question of a \u201csocial card\u201d was put to the Senate, and the Senate said \u201cNo\u201d. It was not a success, it was a time-waster. What we say about the \u201csocial card\u201d is that the Platforms and the government simply discuss among themselves, without involving the Suppliers.<\/p>\n

In reality, the \u201ccard\u201d does not impose any obligations on the Platforms. They can say whatever they want and we know our own – \u201ctout passe par la lutte\u201d – everything comes from the struggle.<\/p>\n","protected":false,"raw":"Today we present an interview published in September 2018 in the online magazine notesfrombelow.org<\/a> (thanks and regards!)\r\n\r\nby Joe Hayns (@JoeHayns<\/a>)\r\n\r\n\u201cThe street is our factory\u201d<\/strong>\r\n\r\nCollectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris (Collectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris, or CLAP) is a group of Parisian delivery drivers \u2014 employed by Deliveroo, Uber Eats, etc. \u2014 who are collectively organizing themselves across the city.\r\n\r\nIn August 2017, CLAP members staged a series of strikes against Deliveroo\u2019s change in pay structure from a guaranteed minimum hourly wage to a fully piece-rate system, the exact same change that sparked the Deliveroo delivery protests in London in late 2016. Since then, CLAP has organised Delivery Platform workers on bikes and mopeds. Their latest action \u2013 a mass deactivation on the weekend of the World Cup finals \u2013 contributed, they believe, to Deliveroo and other platforms suspending their services.\r\n\r\nJH \u2013 Joe Hayns<\/em>\r\nS \u2013 Steven, founding member of CLAP<\/em>\r\n\r\nThis interview was conducted in English, while travelling through Paris in September 2018; it has been lightly edited for clarity. We would like to thank CA for their support before and during the meeting.\r\n\r\nJH \u2013 How did CLAP come about?\r\n\r\nS \u2013 We started around February last year with a meeting of a few bikers who wanted to strike against the platforms and take an activist, rather than just ideological, approach.\r\n\r\nSix months earlier, another platform, Foodora, had closed without paying its Delivery Partners. The company went bankrupt and many Delivery Partners were not paid. Of the original members of CLAP, many worked for the company. They said \u201cwe can\u2019t be without protection \u2013 they, the Platforms, have to protect us\u201d.\r\n\r\nJH - How do larger, longer-established organisations build relationships with Delivery Partners? Do you work with them?\r\n\r\nS - In CLAP, some of us are in the Sud (Solidaires Unitaires D\u00e9mocratiques) trade section and others in the CGT (Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration Nationale du Travail)\r\n\r\nBoth unions have sections representing Deliveroo and Uber Eats workers, but both are struggling. There are now structures in place, after the Delivery Partners fought a huge battle with the Platforms.\r\n\r\nThe first Delivery Partners strike in France was in Bordeaux in 2016. They approached the CGT for support, but the CGT said \u201cno, you\u2019re a small business\u201d. The Suppliers had to strike alone, but after this fight - carried out despite the opposition of the CGT - the union said \"OK, you are workers\". Then Sud did the same and tried to unite many Suppliers.\r\n\r\nBut the structure of the union is not adapted to Suppliers, because we do not have a factory, a place to hand out leaflets, we do not have coffee machines to talk. But we say: \"Le rue est notre usine\", \"This street is our factory\".\r\n\r\nJH - But you meet physically, as members of CLAP?\r\n\r\nS - I think there is a certain contradiction in these Platforms. We do not have a workplace, but when we work, there are certain strategic places - for example between two large restaurants - that, when you work, you know.\r\n\r\nEvery Supplier goes to this place. And at that moment, at that place, we can talk.\r\n\r\nJH - I will ask about tactics in a moment. As for Suppliers - in the UK they are usually young people, with a significant number of men who have emigrated here. Is it similar in France? What do you think is the connection between migration status and this job?\r\n\r\nS - There are many Bangladeshi Delivery Drivers for Deliveroo and Uber Eats. The platforms try to hire a lot of immigrants because they think they will keep quiet and not strike.\r\n\r\nThe \u201cundocumented\u201d have to buy an account from a Frenchman because in France you have to set up a business to be legal, and you can\u2019t do that if you are \u201cundocumented\u201d. So they pay for the Deliveroo account to the French. They buy it and give 50% to the Frenchman. We are fighting against it.\r\n\r\nWe say that a guy who sells his account to an \u201cundocumented\u201d immigrant, for profit, doing nothing, is doing the same as the CEO of Deliveroo or Uber Eats.\r\n\r\nJH - During the first wave of Deliveroo and Uber Eats strikes in the UK, in late summer 2016, workers protested outside the companies\u2019 offices, while logging out of the app. This was followed by a legal campaign by the Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) union to classify Delivery Drivers as workers. And at the end of November last year, Deliveroo Delivery Drivers blocked the restaurant \"Editions Kitchen\" in Brighton. There, the restaurants prepare food exclusively for delivery, and this is also happening in France now.\r\n\r\nI think we can talk about a series of \"spontaneous\" strikes running parallel to the legal campaign. And what tactics did you use?\r\n\r\nS - Our biggest tactic is to blockade restaurants. We all stop working at the same time and go to the same place, the same restaurant, and ask them to stop the tablet [used to organise deliveries], so they don\u2019t make a profit. If they don\u2019t do what we say, we stay outside the restaurant shouting \u2013 and when they turn the tablet off, OK, we\u2019ll go to another restaurant. We\u2019re trying to strike that way.\r\n\r\nFrom September we\u2019ll have a permanent location in the city \u2013 a place where we\u2019ll be one day a week, where we\u2019ll help Delivery Drivers with a range of issues \u2013 give advice on jobs etc.\r\n\r\nJH - In the UK, the strategy of the Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) union has been not to ask Delivery Drivers to be paid more per unit, but to argue in the courts that Delivery Drivers are employees \u2013 not, as Deliveroo claims, independent contractors \u2013 and therefore entitled to certain statutory minimums.\r\n\r\nIn an interview with the Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste (NPA), last March, you mentioned the status of Providers and social security \u2013 access to services. You said that you are in a grey area when it comes to both employee benefits and access to social services.\r\n\r\nCould you tell me how your relationship with your employer relates to access to social security?\r\n\r\nS \u2013 We want social security, dignity and a little money to live on. If we get it through legal recognition as employees, OK; if through some micro-enterprise statute, OK too.\r\n\r\n[At this point in the interview, my companion got stuck between the doors of the metro car, distracting me from the question, to which we never returned. So I quote the interview with the NPA: Since we are not considered employees (salari\u00e9s), we do not have to have social security. When we have an accident, all costs are borne by us, unless we have private insurance, which 60-80% of couriers do not have.]\r\n\r\nJH - The Macron administration recently proposed a \u201csocial card\u201d, which seemed to be a suggestion of how the Platforms could relate to workers. What does CLAP think about this?\r\n\r\nS - This was another media nonsense from the Macron government. When we went on strike during the World Cup, the question of a \u201csocial card\u201d was put to the Senate, and the Senate said \u201cNo\u201d. It was not a success, it was a time-waster. What we say about the \u201csocial card\u201d is that the Platforms and the government simply discuss among themselves, without involving the Suppliers.\r\n\r\nIn reality, the \u201ccard\u201d does not impose any obligations on the Platforms. They can say whatever they want and we know our own - \u201ctout passe par la lutte\u201d - everything comes from the struggle."},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false,"raw":""},"author":1,"featured_media":1267,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_pl_post_content":"Dzi\u015b prezentujemy wywiad opublikowany w wrze\u015bniu 2018 w internetowym magazynie notesfrombelow.org<\/a> (dzi\u0119kujemy i pozdrawiamy!)\r\n\r\nautor: Joe Hayns (@JoeHayns<\/a>)\r\n\r\n\"Ulica to nasza fabryka\"<\/strong>\r\n\r\nCollectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris (Kolektyw autonomicznych dostawc\u00f3w z Pary\u017ca, czyli CLAP) to grupa paryskich dostawc\u00f3w \u2014 zatrudnionych przez Deliveroo, Uber Eats itd. \u2014 kt\u00f3rzy wsp\u00f3lnie organizuj\u0105 si\u0119 w ca\u0142ym mie\u015bcie.\r\n\r\nW sierpniu 2017 r. cz\u0142onkowie CLAP przeprowadzili seri\u0119 strajk\u00f3w przeciwko zmianie struktury wynagrodze\u0144 Deliveroo z gwarantowanego minimum godzinowego na system ca\u0142kowicie oparty na akordach, co by\u0142o dok\u0142adnie t\u0105 sam\u0105 zmian\u0105, kt\u00f3ra wywo\u0142a\u0142a protesty dostawc\u00f3w Deliveroo w Londynie pod koniec 2016 r. Od tego czasu CLAP zorganizowa\u0142o pracownik\u00f3w Platform Dostaw, pracuj\u0105cych rowerami i motorowerami. Ich najnowsza akcja \u2014 masowa dezaktywacja w weekend fina\u0142u Mistrzostw \u015awiata \u2014 przyczyni\u0142a si\u0119, jak s\u0105dz\u0105, do zawieszenia us\u0142ug przez Deliveroo i inne platformy.\r\n\r\nJH - Joe Hayns\r\n<\/em>S - Steven, cz\u0142onek-za\u0142o\u017cyciel CLAP<\/em>\r\n\r\nWywiad zosta\u0142 przeprowadzony po angielsku, podczas podr\u00f3\u017cy przez Pary\u017c w wrze\u015bniu 2018 roku; zosta\u0142 lekko zredagowany dla przejrzysto\u015bci. Dzi\u0119kujemy CA za jej wsparcie przed i w trakcie spotkania.\r\n\r\nJH - Jak powsta\u0142 CLAP?\r\n\r\nS - Zacz\u0119li\u015bmy oko\u0142o lutego ubieg\u0142ego roku od spotkania kilku motocyklist\u00f3w, kt\u00f3rzy chcieli zastrajkowa\u0107 przeciwko platformom i podj\u0105\u0107 dzia\u0142ania aktywistyczne, a nie tylko ideologiczne.\r\n\r\nSze\u015b\u0107 miesi\u0119cy wcze\u015bniej inna platforma, Foodora, zako\u0144czy\u0142a dzia\u0142alno\u015b\u0107, nie p\u0142ac\u0105c Dostawcom. Firma zbankrutowa\u0142a, a wielu Dostawc\u00f3w nie otrzyma\u0142o wynagrodzenia. Spo\u015br\u00f3d pierwszych cz\u0142onk\u00f3w CLAP wielu pracowa\u0142o dla tej firmy. M\u00f3wili \u201enie mo\u017cemy by\u0107 bez ochrony - oni, Platformy, musz\u0105 nas chroni\u0107\u201d.\r\n\r\nJH - W jaki spos\u00f3b wi\u0119ksze, d\u0142u\u017cej dzia\u0142aj\u0105ce organizacje nawi\u0105zuj\u0105 relacje z Dostawcami? Czy wsp\u00f3\u0142pracujesz z nimi?\r\n\r\nS - W CLAP cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 z nas jest w Sud (Solidaires Unitaires D\u00e9mocratiques) sekcja handlu, a inni w CGT (Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration Nationale du Travail)\r\n\r\nOba zwi\u0105zki maj\u0105 sekcje reprezentuj\u0105ce pracownik\u00f3w Deliveroo i Uber Eats, ale oba maj\u0105 trudno\u015bci. Teraz istniej\u0105 struktury, po tym jak Dostawcy stoczyli z Platformami wielk\u0105 walk\u0119.\r\n\r\nPierwszy strajk Dostawc\u00f3w we Francji mia\u0142 miejsce w Bordeaux w 2016 roku. Zwr\u00f3cili si\u0119 do CGT o wsparcie, ale CGT odpowiedzia\u0142o \u201enie, jeste\u015b ma\u0142ym przedsi\u0119biorc\u0105\u201d. Dostawcy musieli strajkowa\u0107 sami, ale po tej walce - przeprowadzonej mimo sprzeciwu CGT - zwi\u0105zek powiedzia\u0142 \u201eOK, jeste\u015bcie pracownikami\u201d. Potem Sud zrobi\u0142 to samo i pr\u00f3bowa\u0142 zjednoczy\u0107 wielu Dostawc\u00f3w.\r\n\r\nAle struktura zwi\u0105zk\u00f3w zawodowych nie jest dostosowana do Dostawc\u00f3w, poniewa\u017c nie mamy fabryki, miejsca, gdzie mo\u017cna rozdawa\u0107 ulotki, nie mamy ekspres\u00f3w do kawy, \u017ceby pogada\u0107. Ale my m\u00f3wimy: \u201eLe rue est notre usine\u201d, \u201eTo ulica jest nasz\u0105 fabryk\u0105\u201d.\r\n\r\nJH - Ale spotykacie si\u0119 fizycznie, jako cz\u0142onkowie CLAP?\r\n\r\nS - My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce w tych Platformach jest pewna sprzeczno\u015b\u0107. Nie mamy miejsca pracy, ale kiedy pracujemy, s\u0105 pewne strategiczne miejsca - na przyk\u0142ad mi\u0119dzy dwiema du\u017cymi restauracjami - o kt\u00f3rych, kiedy pracujesz, wiesz.\r\n\r\nKa\u017cdy Dostawca jedzie w to miejsce. I w tym momencie, w tym miejscu, mo\u017cemy porozmawia\u0107.\r\n\r\nJH - Za chwil\u0119 zapytam o taktyk\u0119. Je\u015bli chodzi o Dostawc\u00f3w - w Wielkiej Brytanii s\u0105 to zazwyczaj m\u0142odzi ludzie, ze znaczn\u0105 liczb\u0105 m\u0119\u017cczyzn, kt\u00f3rzy tutaj wyemigrowali. Czy we Francji jest podobnie? Jak my\u015blisz, jaki jest zwi\u0105zek statusu migracyjnego z t\u0105 prac\u0105?\r\n\r\nS - Jest wielu Dostawc\u00f3w z Bangladeszu dla Deliveroo i Uber Eats. Platformy staraj\u0105 si\u0119 zatrudnia\u0107 wielu imigrant\u00f3w, poniewa\u017c, jak s\u0105dz\u0105, b\u0119d\u0105 siedzie\u0107 cicho i nie b\u0119d\u0105 strajkowa\u0107.\r\n\r\n\u201cNieudokumentowani\u201d musz\u0105 kupi\u0107 konto od Francuza, poniewa\u017c we Francji musisz za\u0142o\u017cy\u0107 dzia\u0142alno\u015b\u0107 gospodarcz\u0105, aby dzia\u0142a\u0107 zgodnie z prawem, a nie mo\u017cesz tego zrobi\u0107, je\u015bli jeste\u015b \u201cnieudokumentowany\u201d. Wi\u0119c p\u0142ac\u0105 za konto Deliveroo Francuzom. Kupuj\u0105 je i daj\u0105 50% Francuzowi. Walczymy z tym.\r\n\r\nM\u00f3wimy, \u017ce facet, kt\u00f3ry sprzedaje swoje konto \u201cnieudokumentowanemu\u201d imigrantowi, dla zysku, nic nie robi\u0105c, robi to samo, co szef Deliveroo lub Uber Eats.\r\n\r\nJH - Podczas pierwszej fali strajk\u00f3w Deliveroo i Uber Eats w Wielkiej Brytanii, pod koniec lata 2016 r., pracownicy protestowali przed biurami firm, jednocze\u015bnie wylogowywali si\u0119 z aplikacji. Po tym nast\u0105pi\u0142a kampania prawna zwi\u0105zku zawodowego IWGB (Independent Workers Great Britain) na rzecz klasyfikacji Dostawc\u00f3w jako pracownik\u00f3w. A pod koniec listopada ubieg\u0142ego roku Dostawcy Deliveroo zablokowali restauracj\u0119 \u201eEditions Kitchen\u201d w Brighton. Tam restauracje przygotowuj\u0105 jedzenie wy\u0142\u0105cznie na dostawy, i to teraz r\u00f3wnie\u017c si\u0119 dzieje we Francji.\r\n\r\nMy\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce mo\u017cemy m\u00f3wi\u0107 o serii \u201espontanicznych\u201d strajk\u00f3w toczonych r\u00f3wnolegle do kampanii prawnej. A jakie taktyki Wy zastosowali\u015bcie?\r\n\r\nS - Nasz\u0105 najwi\u0119ksz\u0105 taktyk\u0105 jest blokowanie restauracji. Wszyscy przestajemy pracowa\u0107 w tym samym czasie i idziemy w to samo miejsce, do tej samej restauracji, i prosimy ich, \u017ceby zatrzymali tablet [u\u017cywany do organizowania dostaw], wi\u0119c nie maj\u0105 zysku. Je\u015bli nie zrobi\u0105 tego, co m\u00f3wimy, zostajemy na zewn\u0105trz restauracji, krzycz\u0105c - a kiedy wy\u0142\u0105cz\u0105 tablet, OK, idziemy do innej restauracji. Pr\u00f3bujemy strajkowa\u0107 w ten spos\u00f3b.\r\n\r\nOd wrze\u015bnia b\u0119dziemy mie\u0107 sta\u0142e miejsce na mie\u015bcie \u2013 miejsce, w kt\u00f3rym b\u0119dziemy przebywa\u0107 jeden dzie\u0144 w tygodniu, gdzie b\u0119dziemy pomaga\u0107 Dostawcom w wielu sprawach \u2013 udziela\u0107 porad dotycz\u0105cych pracy itd.\r\n\r\nJH \u2013 W Wielkiej Brytanii strategia zwi\u0105zku zawodowego Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) polega\u0142a nie na \u017c\u0105daniu, aby Dostawcy otrzymywali wi\u0119cej za sztuk\u0119, ale na wykazaniu w s\u0105dach, \u017ce Dostawcy s\u0105 pracownikami \u2013 a nie, jak twierdzi Deliveroo, niezale\u017cnymi kontrahentami \u2013 i dlatego maj\u0105 prawo do pewnych ustawowych minim\u00f3w.\r\n\r\nW wywiadzie dla Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste (NPA), w marcu ubieg\u0142ego roku, wspomnia\u0142e\u015b o statusie Dostawc\u00f3w i zabezpieczeniu spo\u0142ecznym \u2013 dost\u0119pie do us\u0142ug. Powiedzia\u0142e\u015b, \u017ce znajdujesz si\u0119 w szarej strefie, je\u015bli chodzi zar\u00f3wno o \u015bwiadczenia pracownicze, jak i o dost\u0119p do us\u0142ug socjalnych.\r\n\r\nCzy m\u00f3g\u0142by\u015b opowiedzie\u0107, jak Twoja relacja z pracodawc\u0105 odnosi si\u0119 do dost\u0119pu do zabezpieczenia spo\u0142ecznego?\r\n\r\nS \u2013 Chcemy zabezpieczenia spo\u0142ecznego, godno\u015bci i troch\u0119 pieni\u0119dzy na \u017cycie. Je\u015bli otrzymamy to poprzez prawne uznanie za pracownik\u00f3w, OK; je\u015bli poprzez jaki\u015b statut mikroprzedsi\u0119biorstw, to te\u017c OK.\r\n\r\n[W tym momencie wywiadu m\u00f3j towarzysz utkn\u0105\u0142 mi\u0119dzy drzwiami wagonu metra, odwracaj\u0105c moj\u0105 uwag\u0119 od pytania, do kt\u00f3rego ju\u017c nie wr\u00f3cili\u015bmy. Wi\u0119c cytuj\u0119 wywiad dla NPA: Poniewa\u017c nie jeste\u015bmy uwa\u017cani za pracownik\u00f3w (salari\u00e9s), nie musimy mie\u0107 ubezpieczenia spo\u0142ecznego. Kiedy ulegniemy wypadkowi, wszystkie koszty ponosimy my, chyba \u017ce mamy prywatne ubezpieczenie, kt\u00f3rego nie ma 60-80% kurier\u00f3w.]\r\n\r\nJH - Administracja Macrona niedawno zaproponowa\u0142a \u201ckart\u0119 socjaln\u0105\u201d, kt\u00f3ry wydawa\u0142a si\u0119 by\u0107 sugesti\u0105, w jaki spos\u00f3b Platformy mog\u0142yby si\u0119 odnosi\u0107 do pracownik\u00f3w. Co o tym s\u0105dzi CLAP?\r\n\r\nS - To by\u0142a kolejna bzdura medialna rz\u0105du Macrona. Kiedy rozpocz\u0119li\u015bmy strajk podczas Mistrzostw \u015awiata, to pytanie o \u201ckart\u0119 socjaln\u0105\u201d zosta\u0142o skierowane do Senatu, a Senat powiedzia\u0142 \u201eNie\u201d. To nie by\u0142o sukces, to by\u0142a gra na czas. To, co my m\u00f3wimy o \u201ckarcie sojcalnej\u201d, to to, \u017ce Platformy i rz\u0105d po prostu dyskutuj\u0105 mi\u0119dzy sob\u0105, bez anga\u017cowania Dostawc\u00f3w.\r\n\r\nW rzeczywisto\u015bci \u201ckarta\u201d nie nak\u0142ada \u017cadnych obowi\u0105zk\u00f3w na Platformy. Mog\u0105 m\u00f3wi\u0107, co chc\u0105 a my wiemy swoje - \u201etout passe par la lutte\u201d - wszystko pochodzi z walki.","_pl_post_name":"wszystko-bierze-sie-z-walki-wywiad-z-kolektywem-autonomicznych-dostawcow-z-paryza","_pl_post_excerpt":"","_pl_post_title":"\u201eWSZYSTKO BIERZE SI\u0118 Z WALKI\u201d - WYWIAD Z KOLEKTYWEM AUTONOMICZNYCH DOSTAWC\u00d3W Z PARY\u017bA","_en_post_content":"Today we present an interview published in September 2018 in the online magazine notesfrombelow.org<\/a> (thanks and regards!)\r\n\r\nby Joe Hayns (@JoeHayns<\/a>)\r\n\r\n\u201cThe street is our factory\u201d<\/strong>\r\n\r\nCollectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris (Collectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris, or CLAP) is a group of Parisian delivery drivers \u2014 employed by Deliveroo, Uber Eats, etc. \u2014 who are collectively organizing themselves across the city.\r\n\r\nIn August 2017, CLAP members staged a series of strikes against Deliveroo\u2019s change in pay structure from a guaranteed minimum hourly wage to a fully piece-rate system, the exact same change that sparked the Deliveroo delivery protests in London in late 2016. Since then, CLAP has organised Delivery Platform workers on bikes and mopeds. Their latest action \u2013 a mass deactivation on the weekend of the World Cup finals \u2013 contributed, they believe, to Deliveroo and other platforms suspending their services.\r\n\r\nJH \u2013 Joe Hayns<\/em>\r\nS \u2013 Steven, founding member of CLAP<\/em>\r\n\r\nThis interview was conducted in English, while travelling through Paris in September 2018; it has been lightly edited for clarity. We would like to thank CA for their support before and during the meeting.\r\n\r\nJH \u2013 How did CLAP come about?\r\n\r\nS \u2013 We started around February last year with a meeting of a few bikers who wanted to strike against the platforms and take an activist, rather than just ideological, approach.\r\n\r\nSix months earlier, another platform, Foodora, had closed without paying its Delivery Partners. The company went bankrupt and many Delivery Partners were not paid. Of the original members of CLAP, many worked for the company. They said \u201cwe can\u2019t be without protection \u2013 they, the Platforms, have to protect us\u201d.\r\n\r\nJH - How do larger, longer-established organisations build relationships with Delivery Partners? Do you work with them?\r\n\r\nS - In CLAP, some of us are in the Sud (Solidaires Unitaires D\u00e9mocratiques) trade section and others in the CGT (Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration Nationale du Travail)\r\n\r\nBoth unions have sections representing Deliveroo and Uber Eats workers, but both are struggling. There are now structures in place, after the Delivery Partners fought a huge battle with the Platforms.\r\n\r\nThe first Delivery Partners strike in France was in Bordeaux in 2016. They approached the CGT for support, but the CGT said \u201cno, you\u2019re a small business\u201d. The Suppliers had to strike alone, but after this fight - carried out despite the opposition of the CGT - the union said \"OK, you are workers\". Then Sud did the same and tried to unite many Suppliers.\r\n\r\nBut the structure of the union is not adapted to Suppliers, because we do not have a factory, a place to hand out leaflets, we do not have coffee machines to talk. But we say: \"Le rue est notre usine\", \"This street is our factory\".\r\n\r\nJH - But you meet physically, as members of CLAP?\r\n\r\nS - I think there is a certain contradiction in these Platforms. We do not have a workplace, but when we work, there are certain strategic places - for example between two large restaurants - that, when you work, you know.\r\n\r\nEvery Supplier goes to this place. And at that moment, at that place, we can talk.\r\n\r\nJH - I will ask about tactics in a moment. As for Suppliers - in the UK they are usually young people, with a significant number of men who have emigrated here. Is it similar in France? What do you think is the connection between migration status and this job?\r\n\r\nS - There are many Bangladeshi Delivery Drivers for Deliveroo and Uber Eats. The platforms try to hire a lot of immigrants because they think they will keep quiet and not strike.\r\n\r\nThe \u201cundocumented\u201d have to buy an account from a Frenchman because in France you have to set up a business to be legal, and you can\u2019t do that if you are \u201cundocumented\u201d. So they pay for the Deliveroo account to the French. They buy it and give 50% to the Frenchman. We are fighting against it.\r\n\r\nWe say that a guy who sells his account to an \u201cundocumented\u201d immigrant, for profit, doing nothing, is doing the same as the CEO of Deliveroo or Uber Eats.\r\n\r\nJH - During the first wave of Deliveroo and Uber Eats strikes in the UK, in late summer 2016, workers protested outside the companies\u2019 offices, while logging out of the app. This was followed by a legal campaign by the Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) union to classify Delivery Drivers as workers. And at the end of November last year, Deliveroo Delivery Drivers blocked the restaurant \"Editions Kitchen\" in Brighton. There, the restaurants prepare food exclusively for delivery, and this is also happening in France now.\r\n\r\nI think we can talk about a series of \"spontaneous\" strikes running parallel to the legal campaign. And what tactics did you use?\r\n\r\nS - Our biggest tactic is to blockade restaurants. We all stop working at the same time and go to the same place, the same restaurant, and ask them to stop the tablet [used to organise deliveries], so they don\u2019t make a profit. If they don\u2019t do what we say, we stay outside the restaurant shouting \u2013 and when they turn the tablet off, OK, we\u2019ll go to another restaurant. We\u2019re trying to strike that way.\r\n\r\nFrom September we\u2019ll have a permanent location in the city \u2013 a place where we\u2019ll be one day a week, where we\u2019ll help Delivery Drivers with a range of issues \u2013 give advice on jobs etc.\r\n\r\nJH - In the UK, the strategy of the Independent Workers Great Britain (IWGB) union has been not to ask Delivery Drivers to be paid more per unit, but to argue in the courts that Delivery Drivers are employees \u2013 not, as Deliveroo claims, independent contractors \u2013 and therefore entitled to certain statutory minimums.\r\n\r\nIn an interview with the Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste (NPA), last March, you mentioned the status of Providers and social security \u2013 access to services. You said that you are in a grey area when it comes to both employee benefits and access to social services.\r\n\r\nCould you tell me how your relationship with your employer relates to access to social security?\r\n\r\nS \u2013 We want social security, dignity and a little money to live on. If we get it through legal recognition as employees, OK; if through some micro-enterprise statute, OK too.\r\n\r\n[At this point in the interview, my companion got stuck between the doors of the metro car, distracting me from the question, to which we never returned. So I quote the interview with the NPA: Since we are not considered employees (salari\u00e9s), we do not have to have social security. When we have an accident, all costs are borne by us, unless we have private insurance, which 60-80% of couriers do not have.]\r\n\r\nJH - The Macron administration recently proposed a \u201csocial card\u201d, which seemed to be a suggestion of how the Platforms could relate to workers. What does CLAP think about this?\r\n\r\nS - This was another media nonsense from the Macron government. When we went on strike during the World Cup, the question of a \u201csocial card\u201d was put to the Senate, and the Senate said \u201cNo\u201d. It was not a success, it was a time-waster. What we say about the \u201csocial card\u201d is that the Platforms and the government simply discuss among themselves, without involving the Suppliers.\r\n\r\nIn reality, the \u201ccard\u201d does not impose any obligations on the Platforms. They can say whatever they want and we know our own - \u201ctout passe par la lutte\u201d - everything comes from the struggle.","_en_post_name":"everything-comes-from-struggle-interview-with-the-collective-of-autonomous-delivery-drivers-from-paris","_en_post_excerpt":"","_en_post_title":"\u201cEVERYTHING COMES FROM STRUGGLE\u201d - INTERVIEW WITH THE COLLECTIVE OF AUTONOMOUS DELIVERY DRIVERS FROM PARIS","_ru_post_content":"\u0421\u0435\u0433\u043e\u0434\u043d\u044f \u043c\u044b \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u043b\u044f\u0435\u043c \u0438\u043d\u0442\u0435\u0440\u0432\u044c\u044e, \u043e\u043f\u0443\u0431\u043b\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u043d\u043e\u0435 \u0432 \u0441\u0435\u043d\u0442\u044f\u0431\u0440\u0435 2018 \u0433\u043e\u0434\u0430 \u0432 \u0438\u043d\u0442\u0435\u0440\u043d\u0435\u0442-\u0436\u0443\u0440\u043d\u0430\u043b\u0435 Notesfrombelow.org<\/a> (\u0441\u043f\u0430\u0441\u0438\u0431\u043e \u0438 \u0441 \u0443\u0432\u0430\u0436\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435\u043c!)\r\n\r\n\u0414\u0436\u043e \u0425\u0435\u0439\u043d\u0441 (@JoeHayns<\/a>)\r\n\r\n\u00ab\u0423\u043b\u0438\u0446\u0430 \u2013 \u043d\u0430\u0448\u0430 \u0444\u0430\u0431\u0440\u0438\u043a\u0430\u00bb\r\n\r\nCollectif Des Livreurs Autonomes de Paris (\u041a\u043e\u043b\u043b\u0435\u043a\u0442\u0438\u0432 \u0430\u0432\u0442\u043e\u043d\u043e\u043c\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0434\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0449\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432 \u041f\u0430\u0440\u0438\u0436\u0430, \u0438\u043b\u0438 CLAP) \u2014 \u044d\u0442\u043e \u0433\u0440\u0443\u043f\u043f\u0430 \u043f\u0430\u0440\u0438\u0436\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0445 \u0432\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0439-\u043a\u0443\u0440\u044c\u0435\u0440\u043e\u0432, \u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0430\u044e\u0449\u0438\u0445 \u0432 Deliveroo, Uber Eats \u0438 \u0442.\u00a0\u0434., \u043a\u043e\u0442\u043e\u0440\u044b\u0435 \u043e\u0431\u044a\u0435\u0434\u0438\u043d\u044f\u044e\u0442\u0441\u044f \u043f\u043e \u0432\u0441\u0435\u043c\u0443 \u0433\u043e\u0440\u043e\u0434\u0443.\r\n\r\n\u0412 \u0430\u0432\u0433\u0443\u0441\u0442\u0435 2017 \u0433\u043e\u0434\u0430 \u0447\u043b\u0435\u043d\u044b CLAP \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0432\u0435\u043b\u0438 \u0441\u0435\u0440\u0438\u044e \u0437\u0430\u0431\u0430\u0441\u0442\u043e\u0432\u043e\u043a \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0438\u0432 \u0438\u0437\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0441\u0442\u0440\u0443\u043a\u0442\u0443\u0440\u044b \u043e\u043f\u043b\u0430\u0442\u044b Deliveroo \u0441 \u0433\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0442\u0438\u0440\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u043d\u043e\u0439 \u043c\u0438\u043d\u0438\u043c\u0430\u043b\u044c\u043d\u043e\u0439 \u043f\u043e\u0447\u0430\u0441\u043e\u0432\u043e\u0439 \u0441\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0435\u043c\u044b \u043d\u0430 \u043f\u043e\u043b\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u044c\u044e \u0441\u0434\u0435\u043b\u044c\u043d\u0443\u044e \u0441\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0435\u043c\u0443, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u0431\u044b\u043b\u043e \u0442\u043e\u0447\u043d\u043e \u0442\u0430\u043a\u0438\u043c \u0436\u0435 \u0438\u0437\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435\u043c, \u043a\u043e\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043e\u0435 \u0432\u044b\u0437\u0432\u0430\u043b\u043e \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0442\u0435\u0441\u0442\u044b \u0432\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0439 \u0434\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u043a\u0438 Deliveroo \u0432 \u041b\u043e\u043d\u0434\u043e\u043d\u0435 \u0432 \u043a\u043e\u043d\u0446\u0435 2016 \u0433\u043e\u0434\u0430. \u0421 \u0442\u0435\u0445 \u043f\u043e\u0440 CLAP \u043e\u0440\u0433\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0437\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0430 \u0441\u043e\u0442\u0440\u0443\u0434\u043d\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432 Delivery Platform, \u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0430\u044e\u0449\u0438\u0445 \u0441 \u0432\u0435\u043b\u043e\u0441\u0438\u043f\u0435\u0434\u0430\u043c\u0438 \u0438 \u043c\u043e\u043f\u0435\u0434\u0430\u043c\u0438. \u0418\u0445 \u043f\u043e\u0441\u043b\u0435\u0434\u043d\u0435\u0435 \u0434\u0435\u0439\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0438\u0435 \u2014 \u043c\u0430\u0441\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0430\u044f \u0434\u0435\u0430\u043a\u0442\u0438\u0432\u0430\u0446\u0438\u044f \u0432 \u0432\u044b\u0445\u043e\u0434\u043d\u044b\u0435 \u0434\u043d\u0438 \u0444\u0438\u043d\u0430\u043b\u0430 \u0447\u0435\u043c\u043f\u0438\u043e\u043d\u0430\u0442\u0430 \u043c\u0438\u0440\u0430 \u2014 \u043f\u043e \u0438\u0445 \u043c\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044e, \u0441\u043f\u043e\u0441\u043e\u0431\u0441\u0442\u0432\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043b\u043e \u043f\u0440\u0438\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u043d\u043e\u0432\u043a\u0435 \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u043b\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0443\u0441\u043b\u0443\u0433 Deliveroo \u0438 \u0434\u0440\u0443\u0433\u0438\u0445 \u043f\u043b\u0430\u0442\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c.\r\n\r\nJH - \u0414\u0436\u043e \u0425\u0435\u0439\u043d\u0441<\/em>\r\nS \u2013 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