{"id":1007,"date":"2024-09-17T10:00:56","date_gmt":"2024-09-17T08:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/?p=1007"},"modified":"2026-03-08T10:28:34","modified_gmt":"2026-03-08T09:28:34","slug":"i-dont-know-the-reasons-why-this-profession-is-dominated-by-men-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zentrale.pl\/en\/i-dont-know-the-reasons-why-this-profession-is-dominated-by-men-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS WHY THIS PROFESSION IS DOMINATED BY MEN (PART 2)","raw":"I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS WHY THIS PROFESSION IS DOMINATED BY MEN (PART 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"

We return to the conversation with Julia, who works as a delivery girl in Pozna\u0144. We published the first part of our conversation a few days ago (here<\/a>). Now we ask about relations with other Employees and stereotypes towards women.<\/p>\n

You can also find the entire interview in our brochure “This is what exploitation looks like”, in which we publish conversations with people working as Delivery Girls for Platforms in various cities.<\/p>\n

\n

You mention groups on Telegram and FB. And what are contacts with Delivery Girls like in real life?<\/strong>
\nIn real life, they rarely talk to me. Many are also of a different nationality than Polish. I can communicate in English, but Ukrainian is definitely worse. I have never encountered verbal or physical aggression in real life in connection with my work. I have very good contact with the ambassador and the supervisor of Pozna\u0144. It was the ambassador who suggested that I give you an interview. I also meet women who work on various applications. There are definitely fewer of them, that’s true, but I have the impression that there are more and more of them every year. I could be wrong, maybe the statistical data differs.<\/p>\n

Why do you think this profession is so dominated by men?
\n<\/strong>Because of the stereotype that women can’t drive. I think that’s one of the reasons. My friends, when they drive with me somewhere, are not afraid. Quite the opposite. They know that I will keep my cool in different situations. Driving in the city center and in general around Pozna\u0144 has taught me patience. Sometimes I watch couriers who drive fast and carelessly. I try to drive according to the rules because I don’t want to pay fines.<\/p>\n

Another reason is the weight of orders, because a woman can only carry so much. If there is an order that is a bit heavier and I can’t share it with another courier, then I simply take it. It’s not easy at times, but that’s the job. There are good and bad days in every job.<\/p>\n

I honestly don’t know any other reasons why this profession is dominated by men. I think that working in trade, where I worked, as I mentioned, is physically harder than delivery.<\/p>\n

And have you come across comments like: a woman in Delivery? I wonder how she copes with heavy orders…
\n<\/strong>Today I read about it on Telegram and I’ll say this: during the whole day I can have 4 floors without a lift several times, and sometimes zero times. When it comes to shopping, if it meets the conditions, I divide it between another courier, so as not to ruin my health. I also tell other men about it: divide it! Because everyone has one healthy back or arms. But most often I see looks. I don’t know if they are negative or positive. Sometimes I encountered couriers “pushing me away” because they thought I was an ordinary customer in a restaurant. That’s why I started wearing a company cap or sweatshirt to stand out. I had one situation when another courier proposed a date to me, I didn’t accept, but I admire that he asked me outright. But there were also situations when I advised others what to do, etc., or gave tips. I still do that to this day. I’m quite active on Telegram. I like helping.<\/p>\n

The European Union has passed the Platform Work Directive, which is to be implemented in Poland within two years. What do you think about it?
\n<\/strong>I’ve read about it. At the moment I can’t say how big an impact it will have. If cooperation with applications doesn’t go the way I want or simply doesn’t have a positive effect on me, then our paths will simply diverge. Many people in this industry talk a lot and complain about how bad it is on this and that platform, etc., and still work there despite everything. There are people who like the way it is now, and there will also be people who will like the conditions we will soon encounter. They haven’t been implemented in our country yet, so I can’t say whether it will really be a good change.<\/p>\n

Finally, a practical question: If you had to give some advice to people who are just starting out as a Delivery Driver, what would you tell them? What should they pay attention to and what should they avoid?<\/strong>
\nWho asks does not make mistakes – ask people who have experience. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, even the most obvious ones. Everyone started from scratch.<\/p>\n

Don’t always be guided by pins on the map when it comes to the customer’s address. It is often in a different place than in reality. I recommend Yanosik maps, they are better than Google Maps in my opinion.<\/p>\n

Be polite to employees of restaurants or other establishments. They are also people. Of course, there are rude people, but I think that calmness and composure are important in this job.
\nIf you have a bad day, don’t give up. There are also better moments. However, everyone decides for themselves whether this is a good job or not.
\nAnd drink water<\/p>\n","protected":false,"raw":"We return to the conversation with Julia, who works as a delivery girl in Pozna\u0144. We published the first part of our conversation a few days ago (here<\/a>). Now we ask about relations with other Employees and stereotypes towards women.\r\n\r\nYou can also find the entire interview in our brochure \"This is what exploitation looks like\", in which we publish conversations with people working as Delivery Girls for Platforms in various cities.\r\n\r\n

\r\n\r\nYou mention groups on Telegram and FB. And what are contacts with Delivery Girls like in real life?<\/strong>\r\nIn real life, they rarely talk to me. Many are also of a different nationality than Polish. I can communicate in English, but Ukrainian is definitely worse. I have never encountered verbal or physical aggression in real life in connection with my work. I have very good contact with the ambassador and the supervisor of Pozna\u0144. It was the ambassador who suggested that I give you an interview. I also meet women who work on various applications. There are definitely fewer of them, that's true, but I have the impression that there are more and more of them every year. I could be wrong, maybe the statistical data differs.\r\n\r\nWhy do you think this profession is so dominated by men?\r\n<\/strong>Because of the stereotype that women can't drive. I think that's one of the reasons. My friends, when they drive with me somewhere, are not afraid. Quite the opposite. They know that I will keep my cool in different situations. Driving in the city center and in general around Pozna\u0144 has taught me patience. Sometimes I watch couriers who drive fast and carelessly. I try to drive according to the rules because I don't want to pay fines.\r\n\r\nAnother reason is the weight of orders, because a woman can only carry so much. If there is an order that is a bit heavier and I can't share it with another courier, then I simply take it. It's not easy at times, but that's the job. There are good and bad days in every job.\r\n\r\nI honestly don't know any other reasons why this profession is dominated by men. I think that working in trade, where I worked, as I mentioned, is physically harder than delivery.\r\n\r\nAnd have you come across comments like: a woman in Delivery? I wonder how she copes with heavy orders...\r\n<\/strong>Today I read about it on Telegram and I'll say this: during the whole day I can have 4 floors without a lift several times, and sometimes zero times. When it comes to shopping, if it meets the conditions, I divide it between another courier, so as not to ruin my health. I also tell other men about it: divide it! Because everyone has one healthy back or arms. But most often I see looks. I don't know if they are negative or positive. Sometimes I encountered couriers \"pushing me away\" because they thought I was an ordinary customer in a restaurant. That's why I started wearing a company cap or sweatshirt to stand out. I had one situation when another courier proposed a date to me, I didn't accept, but I admire that he asked me outright. But there were also situations when I advised others what to do, etc., or gave tips. I still do that to this day. I'm quite active on Telegram. I like helping.\r\n\r\nThe European Union has passed the Platform Work Directive, which is to be implemented in Poland within two years. What do you think about it?\r\n<\/strong>I've read about it. At the moment I can't say how big an impact it will have. If cooperation with applications doesn't go the way I want or simply doesn't have a positive effect on me, then our paths will simply diverge. Many people in this industry talk a lot and complain about how bad it is on this and that platform, etc., and still work there despite everything. There are people who like the way it is now, and there will also be people who will like the conditions we will soon encounter. They haven't been implemented in our country yet, so I can't say whether it will really be a good change.\r\n\r\nFinally, a practical question: If you had to give some advice to people who are just starting out as a Delivery Driver, what would you tell them? What should they pay attention to and what should they avoid?<\/strong>\r\nWho asks does not make mistakes - ask people who have experience. Don't be afraid to ask questions, even the most obvious ones. Everyone started from scratch.\r\n\r\nDon't always be guided by pins on the map when it comes to the customer's address. It is often in a different place than in reality. I recommend Yanosik maps, they are better than Google Maps in my opinion.\r\n\r\nBe polite to employees of restaurants or other establishments. They are also people. Of course, there are rude people, but I think that calmness and composure are important in this job.\r\nIf you have a bad day, don't give up. There are also better moments. However, everyone decides for themselves whether this is a good job or not.\r\nAnd drink water"},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false,"raw":""},"author":1,"featured_media":1008,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_pl_post_content":"Wracamy do rozmowy z Juli\u0105, kt\u00f3ra pracuje jako dostawczyni w Poznaniu. Pierwsz\u0105 cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 naszej rozmowy publikowali\u015bmy kilka dni temu (tutaj<\/a>). Teraz pytamy o stosunki z innymi Pracownikami i o steorotypy wobec kobiet.\r\n\r\nCa\u0142y wywiad znajdziecie te\u017c w naszej broszurze \u201cW\u0142a\u015bnie tak wygl\u0105da wyzysk\u201d, w kt\u00f3rej publikujemy rozmowy z osobami pracuj\u0105cymi jako Dostawcy dla Platform w r\u00f3\u017cnych miastach.\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\nWspominasz grupy na Telegramie i FB. A jak wygladaja kontakty z Dostawcami w realu?<\/strong>\r\nW realu rzadko kiedy do mnie si\u0119 odzywaj\u0105. Wielu jest te\u017c innej narodowo\u015bci ni\u017c polskiej. Potrafi\u0119 komunikowa\u0107 si\u0119 po angielsku, z ukrai\u0144skim zdecydowanie gorzej. Nie spotka\u0142am si\u0119 nigdy na \u017cywo z agresj\u0105 s\u0142own\u0105 czy fizyczn\u0105 w zwi\u0105zku z moj\u0105 prac\u0105. Bardzo dobry kontakt mam z ambasadorem oraz opiekunem Poznania. To mi\u0119dzy innymi ambasador zaproponowa\u0142, abym udzieli\u0142a Wam wywiadu. Spotykam te\u017c kobiety, kt\u00f3re pracuj\u0105 na r\u00f3\u017cnych aplikacjach. Jest ich zdecydownaie mniej, to prawda, ale mam wra\u017cenie, \u017ce z roku na rok jest coraz wi\u0119cej. Mog\u0119 si\u0119 myli\u0107, mo\u017ce dane statystycznie si\u0119 r\u00f3\u017cni\u0105.\r\n\r\nDlaczego, Twoim zdaniem, ten zaw\u00f3d jest tak zdominowany przez facet\u00f3w?<\/strong>\r\nPrzez stereotyp, \u017ce kobiety nie umiej\u0105 je\u017adzi\u0107 autem. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to jest jeden z powod\u00f3w. Moi znajomi, je\u017cd\u017c\u0105c ze mn\u0105 gdzie\u015b autem, nie boj\u0105 si\u0119. Wr\u0119cz przeciwnie. Oni wiedz\u0105, \u017ce zachowam zimn\u0105 krew w r\u00f3\u017cnych sytuacjach. Jazda po centrum i w og\u00f3le po Poznaniu nauczy\u0142a mnie cierpliwo\u015bci. Czasami obserwuje kurier\u00f3w, co je\u017cd\u017c\u0105 szybko i nieostro\u017cnie. Ja staram si\u0119 je\u017adzi\u0107 przepisowo, bo nie chce p\u0142aci\u0107 mandat\u00f3w.\r\nKolejny pow\u00f3d, to przez ci\u0119\u017car zam\u00f3wie\u0144, \u017ce jak to kobieta uniesie tyle i tyle. Je\u017celi jest takie zlecenie, kt\u00f3re jest troch\u0119 wi\u0119ksze wagowo, i nie mog\u0119 rozdzieli\u0107 na innego kuriera, to wtedy je po prostu bior\u0119. Nie jest \u0142atwo momentami, ale taka praca. W ka\u017cdej pracy s\u0105 lepsze i gorsze dni.\r\nSzczerze nie znam innych powod\u00f3w, dlaczego ten zaw\u00f3d jest zdominowany przez m\u0119\u017cczyzn. Uwa\u017cam, \u017ce praca w handlu, w kt\u00f3rym pracowa\u0142am jak wspomina\u0142am jest ci\u0119\u017csza fizycznie od deliwerki.\r\n\r\nNo a czy spotka\u0142a\u015b si\u0119 wprost z komentarzami typu: kobieta na Dostawach? Ciekawe jak daje rade z cie\u017ckimi zam\u00f3wieniami\u2026<\/strong>\r\nDzisiaj czyta\u0142am o tym na Telegramie i powiem tak: w ci\u0105gu ca\u0142ego dnia potrafi\u0119 mie\u0107 kilka razy 4 pi\u0119tro bez windy, a czasem zero razy. Je\u017celi chodzi o zakupy to je\u017celi spe\u0142niaj\u0105 warunki, to rozdzielam to na innego kuriera, aby te\u017c nie niszczy\u0107 swojego zdrowia. M\u00f3wi\u0119 te\u017c o tym innym facetom: rozdzielajcie! Bo ka\u017cdy ma jedne zdrowe plecy czy r\u0119ce. Ale najcz\u0119\u015bciej to widz\u0119 spojrzenia. Nie wiem czy nacechowane negatywnie czy pozytywnie. Czasami spotyka\u0142am si\u0119 z tym, \u017ce kurierzy \u201eodpychali mnie\u201d, bo my\u015bleli, \u017ce jestem zwyk\u0142ym klientem w restauracji. Dlatego zacz\u0119\u0142am nosi\u0107 firmow\u0105 czapk\u0119 czy bluz\u0119, aby si\u0119 wyr\u00f3\u017cnia\u0107. Mia\u0142am jedn\u0105 sytuacj\u0119, kiedy inny kurier zaproponowa\u0142 mi randk\u0119, nie zgodzi\u0142am si\u0119, ale podziwiam, \u017ce z marszu spyta\u0142 mi si\u0119 o to. Ale by\u0142y te\u017c sytuacj\u0119, kiedy ja sama radzi\u0142am innym co maj\u0105 zrobi\u0107 itd., albo dawa\u0142am wskaz\u00f3wki. Do dzisiaj to robi\u0119. Udzielam si\u0119 do\u015b\u0107 cz\u0119sto na Telegramie. Lubi\u0119 pomaga\u0107.\r\n\r\nUnia Europejska uchwali\u0142a Dyrektywe o Pracy dla Platform, w ci\u0105gu dw\u00f3ch lat ma by\u0107 wdro\u017cona w Polsce. Co o niej my\u015blisz?<\/strong>\r\nCzyta\u0142am o tym. Na ten moment nie potrafi\u0119 okre\u015bli\u0107, jak du\u017cy b\u0119dzie mia\u0142o to wp\u0142yw. Je\u017celi wsp\u00f3\u0142praca z aplikacjami nie b\u0119dzie sz\u0142a po mojej my\u015bli albo po prostu nie b\u0119dzie na mnie dzia\u0142a\u0107 pozytywnie, to po prostu nasze drogi si\u0119 rozejd\u0105. Wiele os\u00f3b z tej bran\u017cy du\u017co m\u00f3wi i narzeka, jak to jest \u017ale na tej i tamtej platformie itd., a nadal mimo wszystko pracuj\u0105 tam. S\u0105 ludzie, kt\u00f3rym podoba si\u0119 jak jest teraz, a b\u0119d\u0105 te\u017c ludzie, kt\u00f3rym spodobaj\u0105 si\u0119 warunki jakie wkr\u00f3tce spotkamy. Jeszcze nie s\u0105 wdro\u017cone w naszym kraju, dlatego te\u017c nie potrafi\u0119 powiedzie\u0107, czy to b\u0119dzie rzeczywi\u015bcie dobra zmiana.\r\n\r\nNa koniec pytanie praktyczne: Gdyby\u015b mia\u0142a co\u015b poradzi\u0107 osobom, kt\u00f3re w\u0142a\u015bnie zaczynaj\u0105 prac\u0119 jako Dostawca, to co by\u015b im powiedzia\u0142a? Na co powinni zwr\u00f3ci\u0107 uwag\u0119, a czego powinni unika\u0107?<\/strong>\r\nKto pyta ten nie b\u0142\u0105dzi \u2013 pytajcie si\u0119 osobom, kt\u00f3re maj\u0105 do\u015bwiadczenie. Nie b\u00f3jcie si\u0119 zadawa\u0107 pyta\u0144 nawet tych najbardziej oczywistych. Ka\u017cdy zaczyna\u0142 od zera.\r\nNie sugerujcie si\u0119 zawsze pinezkami na mapie, je\u017celi chodzi o adres klienta. Cz\u0119sto jest w innym miejscu ni\u017c w rzeczywisto\u015bci. Polecam mapy Yanosika, s\u0105 lepsze od google maps wg mnie.\r\nB\u0105d\u017acie uprzejmi dla pracownik\u00f3w restauracji czy innych punkt\u00f3w. To te\u017c s\u0105 ludzie. Wiadomo, \u017ce zdarzaj\u0105 si\u0119 nieuprzejme osoby, ale uwa\u017cam, \u017ce spok\u00f3j i opanowanie w tej pracy jest wa\u017cne.\r\nJe\u017celi ma si\u0119 gorszy dzie\u0144, to nie poddawajcie si\u0119. S\u0105 te\u017c te lepsze momenty. Aczkolwiek ka\u017cdy sam decyduje czy to jest fajna praca czy nie.\r\nNo i pijcie wod\u0119!","_pl_post_name":"nie-znam-powodow-dlaczego-ten-zawod-jest-zdominowany-przez-mezczyzn-czesc-2","_pl_post_excerpt":"","_pl_post_title":"NIE ZNAM POWOD\u00d3W, DLACZEGO TEN ZAW\u00d3D JEST ZDOMINOWANY PRZEZ M\u0118\u017bCZYZN (CZ\u0118\u015a\u0106 2)","_en_post_content":"We return to the conversation with Julia, who works as a delivery girl in Pozna\u0144. We published the first part of our conversation a few days ago (here<\/a>). Now we ask about relations with other Employees and stereotypes towards women.\r\n\r\nYou can also find the entire interview in our brochure \"This is what exploitation looks like\", in which we publish conversations with people working as Delivery Girls for Platforms in various cities.\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\nYou mention groups on Telegram and FB. And what are contacts with Delivery Girls like in real life?<\/strong>\r\nIn real life, they rarely talk to me. Many are also of a different nationality than Polish. I can communicate in English, but Ukrainian is definitely worse. I have never encountered verbal or physical aggression in real life in connection with my work. I have very good contact with the ambassador and the supervisor of Pozna\u0144. It was the ambassador who suggested that I give you an interview. I also meet women who work on various applications. There are definitely fewer of them, that's true, but I have the impression that there are more and more of them every year. I could be wrong, maybe the statistical data differs.\r\n\r\nWhy do you think this profession is so dominated by men?\r\n<\/strong>Because of the stereotype that women can't drive. I think that's one of the reasons. My friends, when they drive with me somewhere, are not afraid. Quite the opposite. They know that I will keep my cool in different situations. Driving in the city center and in general around Pozna\u0144 has taught me patience. Sometimes I watch couriers who drive fast and carelessly. I try to drive according to the rules because I don't want to pay fines.\r\n\r\nAnother reason is the weight of orders, because a woman can only carry so much. If there is an order that is a bit heavier and I can't share it with another courier, then I simply take it. It's not easy at times, but that's the job. There are good and bad days in every job.\r\n\r\nI honestly don't know any other reasons why this profession is dominated by men. I think that working in trade, where I worked, as I mentioned, is physically harder than delivery.\r\n\r\nAnd have you come across comments like: a woman in Delivery? I wonder how she copes with heavy orders...\r\n<\/strong>Today I read about it on Telegram and I'll say this: during the whole day I can have 4 floors without a lift several times, and sometimes zero times. When it comes to shopping, if it meets the conditions, I divide it between another courier, so as not to ruin my health. I also tell other men about it: divide it! Because everyone has one healthy back or arms. But most often I see looks. I don't know if they are negative or positive. Sometimes I encountered couriers \"pushing me away\" because they thought I was an ordinary customer in a restaurant. That's why I started wearing a company cap or sweatshirt to stand out. I had one situation when another courier proposed a date to me, I didn't accept, but I admire that he asked me outright. But there were also situations when I advised others what to do, etc., or gave tips. I still do that to this day. I'm quite active on Telegram. I like helping.\r\n\r\nThe European Union has passed the Platform Work Directive, which is to be implemented in Poland within two years. What do you think about it?\r\n<\/strong>I've read about it. At the moment I can't say how big an impact it will have. If cooperation with applications doesn't go the way I want or simply doesn't have a positive effect on me, then our paths will simply diverge. Many people in this industry talk a lot and complain about how bad it is on this and that platform, etc., and still work there despite everything. There are people who like the way it is now, and there will also be people who will like the conditions we will soon encounter. They haven't been implemented in our country yet, so I can't say whether it will really be a good change.\r\n\r\nFinally, a practical question: If you had to give some advice to people who are just starting out as a Delivery Driver, what would you tell them? What should they pay attention to and what should they avoid?<\/strong>\r\nWho asks does not make mistakes - ask people who have experience. Don't be afraid to ask questions, even the most obvious ones. Everyone started from scratch.\r\n\r\nDon't always be guided by pins on the map when it comes to the customer's address. It is often in a different place than in reality. I recommend Yanosik maps, they are better than Google Maps in my opinion.\r\n\r\nBe polite to employees of restaurants or other establishments. They are also people. Of course, there are rude people, but I think that calmness and composure are important in this job.\r\nIf you have a bad day, don't give up. There are also better moments. 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